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- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Loop variables questions
- From: baez@guitar.ucr.edu (john baez)
- Date: 17 Nov 92 06:58:33 GMT
-
- My friend Allen Knutson emailed the following to me, because in the
- math department at Princeton (that place beloved to me) the news poster
- is DEAD. My comments are interwoven, marked with an initial JB:
-
- Return-Path: <aknaton@math.Princeton.EDU>
- Subject: Quantum GR questions
- To: baez@ucrmath.ucr.edu
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:57:54 EST
- Cc: aknaton@math.Princeton.EDU (Allen Knutson)
-
- AK: I must have some deep misunderstanding about the A,R & S quantum gravity
- stuff. I would ask you this on the net, but the nnposter is still broken,
- dammit. Certainly feel free to answer on the net, if you don't want to
- repeat yourself to other people asking about loopy QGR.
-
- First question is about the loop representation of connections. If I
- remember right, you said that to a connection and a representation of
- the structure group one can associate a number, the trace of the
- holonomy around the loop, and with luck one can reconstruct the connection
- uniquely up to gauge equivalence from knowing all these numbers. When
- is this the case? Obviously the representation must be faithful.
-
- JB: Yes, clearly the representation must be faithful or it won't work.
-
- Here's how the loop transform goes again folks. This will be fairly heavy
- going for those not versed in differential geometry, but it's never too late
- to learn!
-
- First of all, recall the notion of holonomy. Suppose we are
- given a vector bundle E over the manifold M with a connection A. Let
- E_x denote the vector space sitting over some point x in M -- E_x is
- called the "fiber" of the vector bundle E over the point x.
- Using the connection to parallel translate a vector in E_x around
- a loop in M, each loop based at the point x in M gives rise to a holonomy,
- that is, a linear transformation of the vector space E_x. If we take the
- trace of this linear transformation we get a number. This number doesn't
- change if we do a gauge transformation on A.
-
- Now the transform of a given connection A is the function on the space of loops
- given by the trace of the holonomy. So we may think of the loop transform
- as a function from the space of connections modulo gauge transformations to
- the space of functions on loops.
-
- If for all loops this holonomy lies in a certain subgroup
- G of End(E_x) (the space of linear transformations of E_x) we may say that
- A is a G-connection. Given any old Lie group G, we can define the
- space of G-connections on E modulo gauge transformations (where we restrict
- ourselves to G-valued gauge transformations). The loop transform can be
- regarded as a map from this space to the space of functions on the space
- of loops! (Whew.)
-
- When is this one-to-one, AK askes. I know it is for the defining rep of
- SU(2) but not for SL(2,C). Right now I am confused about the general criterion
- for when it is. I may be screwed up here, but part of what we need
- is for the functions
-
- tr(g^n)
-
- to generate an algebra on G/[G,G] that separates points. It is easy to see
- that they do NOT for SL(2,C). Take the matrices
-
- 1 1+a
- 0 1
-
- These are conjugate for all a > 0 but not for a = 0. (This is a good exercise -
- they are conjugate by an element of SL(2,C), I mean.) Thus no
- continuous Ad-invariant function on SL(2,C) can separate the points
-
- 1 2
- 0 1
-
- and
-
- 1 0
- 0 1
-
- even though they are not conjugate in SL(2,C). This is irritating but
- it also implies that *no* continuous gauge-invariant function on the space
- of connections (in any reasonable topology) can separate gauge equivalence
- classes of connections for this gauge group.
-
- Hmm, I should reread R. Giles' Reconstruction of gauge potentials from
- Wilson loops, Phys Rev D24 (1981) 2160-2168.
-
- AK: Second, if we have the numbers for knots, why do people want to know/have
- the right to ask for numbers on links? And why is the right answer to demand
- the product of the other numbers?
-
- MP: a note from me - what I am looking for is a way for the discrete
- entities like knots and links to be performing computations, thru loopyQG's
- dynamical aspect [QM metaphysical probs aside]
-
-
-
- JB: If one had a measure on the space of connections mod gauge transformations,
- one could assign a number to any knot, by forming the trace of the holonomy
- and then integrating over the space of connections mod gauge transformations.
-
- One could also assign a number to any link, by forming the products of the
- traces of the holonomies of each of the components of the link (which are
- knots). People do both.
-
- AK: Third, it is claimed (if I am reading right) that one of the QG constraints
- amounts to saying "The loop functionals must give the same answer on two
- isotopic loops". Say we cross a loop through itself, and look at how the
- holonomy changes, i.e. smoothly I would have thought.
-
- JB: In this context (quantum gravity) the space of states can be viewed
- as a certain space of "measures" on the space of connections modulo
- gauge transformations. Measures on this space must satisfy two constraints to
- define states of quantum gravity in the canonical quantization approach:
- diffeomorphism-invariance, and the Hamiltonian constraint.
-
- Now the loop transform can be extended to define a map from the space of
- measures on the space of connections mod gauge transformations to the
- space of functions on loops! (First take the trace,
- then integrate over the space of connections with respect to your measure.)
- In quantum gravity one would like to say that the loop transform of
- a diffeomorphism-invariant measure on the space of connections mod gauge
- transformations is a link invariant, that is, only depends on the
- ambient isotopy class of the link. This is true! But the "measures"
- that people are interested in, like the Chern-Simons path integral, are
- not really measures in the honest sense. One must generalize the notion
- of a measure, much as one does in the case of linear field theories by
- introducing the notion of a "distribution" -- in the sense of the book
- with Segal and Zhou. I'm working on this now.
-
- MP: JB's personal research - this notion of generalizing measures to
- whatever sort of space the space of connections is - I think I
- recall him saying once that his effort was to make CSlike path integrals
- rigorous in this context??
-
- AK: Fourth, say we have a state s, i.e. a loop functional, and an area operator.
- When we apply the area operator A to the state, we get another loop functional,
- such that when we then evaluate As on a loop we count the number of
- intersections. Doesn't that mean that As isn't constant on loop classes,
- and thus isn't a state? Oh dear, perhaps I shouldn't be asking this question,
- since it's probably founded on so many misconceptions.
-
- JB: The area operators are not defined in the physical state space
- of quantum gravity, in which the diffeomorphism-invariance constraint
- has been taken into account! They are defined in the space of all
- "measures on the space of connections mod gauge transformations".
-
- AK: Fifth, I notice that I see Ed Witten's name in the ends of many of these
- papers; is it not true then that everybody at Princeton hates this approach
- to GR? That'd certainly be encouraging. Allen K.
-
- JB: No, it just shows that everyone drops Ed Witten's name. You're at
- Princeton - *you* see if everyone there hates loop variables!
-
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Hidden variable theories, was: Uncertainty Princi
- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:06:32 GMT
-
- From galois!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!uunet!mtnmath!paul Fri Sep 11 20:17:18 EDT 1992
- Article: 20187 of sci.physics
- Path: galois!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!uunet!mtnmath!paul
- From: paul@mtnmath.UUCP (Paul Budnik)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Hidden variable theories, was: Uncertainty Princi
- Message-ID: <271@mtnmath.UUCP>
- Date: 11 Sep 92 14:16:36 GMT
- References: <1992Sep5.071519.16554@asl.dl.nec.com> <1992Sep11.015614.28674@galois.mit.edu>
- Organization: Mountain Math Software, P. O. Box 2124, Saratoga. CA 95070
- Lines: 49
-
- Paul Budnik writes:
- >In article <1992Sep11.015614.28674@galois.mit.edu>, jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes:
- >> In a down-to-earth vein, I would only say information was being
- >> transmitted by such a device if I could use it tell my grandma what I
- >> was having for dinner, or at least do so with some statistically
- >> significant chance (i.e., I'll accept a noisy channel as long as it's
- >> not 100% noise). It would only be if someone did THIS with quantum
- >> trickery that I would get nervous. But of course one can't.
-
- >You are free to redefine information in any way you choose (at least
- >in a posting) but what you are defining here is normally regarded as
- >sending a signal. Information is often transferred in ways that no
- >human being can control.
-
- Fine. I have no attachment to terminology in this issue as long as we
- agree on what one can and can't do. Typically, 99% of argument about
- measurement in QM concerns the right way to talk about what happens,
- rather than what actually happend, which is why I find it so boring.
- Your latest post confirms that we have no argument over facts, just
- massive disagreements about vocabulary, which reassures me that I can
- let the matter rest.
-
- >> ... you
- >> are using the word "causality" in a certain way, which I think is the
- >>"wrong" way, but in any case, that there's another sensible usage of it
- >> such that causality is not violated.
-
- >I would appreciate some references. In everything I have read in respected
- >journals there is no disagreement that either causality or Lorentz invariance
- >is violated. There is a lot of garbage written in popular accounts
- >of this subject.
-
- See any book which explains the various axiomatic approaches to quantum
- field theory. The best for this purpose is "An Introduction to Axiomatic
- Quantum Field Theory" by Bogoliubov, Todorov, and Shirkov (there's also
- a new book by roughly the same authors). There are various axiom schemes,
- notably the Garding-Wightman axioms for quantum fields as operator-valued
- distributions on Minkowski space, the Haag-Kastler axioms for quantum fields in
- terms of local algebras of observables, and the Osterwalder-Schroeder
- axioms for Euclidean quantum field theory. All these axioms schemes
- contain axioms for causality and Lorentz invariance. The point is,
- what quantum field theorist mean by causality is quite different from
- what you seem to mean! There's not really any contradiction. There
- are, in fact, two distinct notions of causality in quantum field
- theory, "microscopic causality," which is called "Local commutativity" on
- p. 597 of the book cited above, and another sort of causality
- sometimes called the "diamond property," also discussed on the same
- page. These notions are easiest to get ahold of in the Haag-Kastler
- axiom scheme. The first says that the operator algebras living on
- spacelike separated open sets commute. The second says that if one
- open set is in the causal shadow of another (see my recent post for a
- definition of that term), its operator algebra is contained in the
- operator algebra of the other. Roughly speaking, the latter says
- that information, or signals, or whatever you want to call 'em, can't
- propagate faster than the speed of light. More precisely, the state in a
- given open set is completely determined by the state in open set of which it's
- in the causal shadow. Here I'm using the word "state" in the usual
- sense of (mathematical) quantum theory: a positive linear functional on a
- C*-algebra.
-
- If you can't get the above book, which is really very nice, I
- recommend the original article
-
- Haag and Kastler
- An Algebraic Approach to Quantum Field Theory
- Journal of Math. Phys.
- 5 (1964) p. 848.
-
- Realize, however, that there is a vast literature on the subject since.
- There is a book called "An Introduction to Algebraic Quantum Field
- Theory" which treats some of the newer stuff - I forget the author -
- not to be confused with "An Introduction to Algebraic and Constructive
- Quantum Field Theory" by Segal, Zhou and myself; we have a discussion of
- causality but do not treat the Haag-Kastler axioms (or any others) as such.
-
- >Regarding the rest of your message, there is no absolute contradiction
- >in quantum mechanic only some very unlikely predictions.
-
- Unlikely, eh? Care to state odds at which you'd bet some real money?
- I'm already looking forward to 50 bucks from Dave Ring when his
- "solid evidence for supersymmetry" fails to materialize. (Say - I
- forget when the deadline on this bet was! I don't want to let him
- weasel out via indefinite postponement!) I look forward to the day
- when an improved Aspect-type experiment rules out a Lorentz-invariant
- wavefunction collapse theory by giving a real violation of Bell's
- inequalities - but I'd look forward to it even more if I knew I would
- make some money off it!
-
-
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Question of Theory of Everything (or Grand Unified theory)
- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 04:04:45 GMT
- References: <1992Sep7.022904.15484@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
-
- Don't ever believe anyone who claims that there WILL BE a shocking
- scientific advance 10-20 years from now. Scientific breakthroughs are
- by definition unexpected until they happen. The fans of superstrings
- were very optimistic about 5 years ago and some of the more bold, or
- if I may say so, arrogant, claimed that shortly we would have a fully
- functioning "Theory of Everything". The relative lack of hubbub about
- string theory in the popular press lately is an indication of what has
- happened in the meantime - lots of good mathematics but sort of a
- quagmire when it comes to working out the physics. In particular,
- people had been excited for a while when it looked like there was an
- almost unique sensible string theory, but now this no longer seems
- true.
-
- I have my own prejudices about what are the best directions to look
- for a theory of everything, and if you had been reading sci.physics
- for the last year you would have seen me go on and on about them.
- Briefly, I favor the Ashtekar/Rovelli/Smolin loop variables approach
- to quantum gravity, and its extensions to treat other forces. Check
- out the "Science and the Citizen" column of the latest Scientific
- American (September 1992) for a nice introduction. I am spending all
- my time working on this stuff myself, however, so I am hardly an
- unbiased party! On good days I think, "Yeah, maybe in 10 or 20 years
- we'll work out a theory of all the forces!" But that's just my
- natural optimism and good spirits. We may never have a theory of
- everything - indeed even if we get one we will never know for sure
- that it is true - but all we can say for now is that physics is full, very
- full, of mysterious puzzles!
-
-
-
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: What do we know or believe about generations?
- From: nextc.Princeton.EDU!mdd (Mark D. Doyle)
- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:24:01 GMT
- References: <1992Sep11.020409.28542@nuscc.nus.sg>
-
- In article <1992Sep11.020409.28542@nuscc.nus.sg> matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg
- (Mcinnes B T (Dr)) writes:
- > One of the really pressing problems in physics is the generation
- > problem: why do we have three?
- > What solutions have been proposed for this one?
- > I know one: in string theory, the CAlabi-Yau people proposed that we
- > have more than one generation essentially because of the way that the
- > topology of the internal manifold affects the solutions of the Dirac
- > equation. The number of generations turns out to be related to the Euler
- > characteristic of the internal space. This extremely natural solution of
- > the problem seems to be dying out along with string theory itself.
-
- I wouldn't say that string theory is dying out. (Of course, I may be a
- bit biased since my thesis defense is tomorrow morning in string theory.)
- It has just become clear that there is a lot of things in string theory
- that need to be understood better. One big problem is to understand the
- nonperturbative definition of the theory so that one can address questions
- such as supersymmetry breaking, number of generations, the low energy
- spectrum (what we currently call high energy physics), etc. This has
- always been known to be a tough problem. Some progress has been made in
- the last few years with the introduction of matrix models and topological
- theories. The current trend is to set aside the harder problems of working
- with something like the heterotic string in ten dimensions and work with
- low dimensional string theories (D < or = 1) that are exactly solvable.
- The hope is to glean insight that can be applied to the more physically
- relevant case. The last few years have seen an explosion of interest in
- this approach and it has been quite fruitful. The most remarkable thing is
- the breadth of different areas of mathematics that come up in these
- pursuits. There is still a large contigent of people who are actively
- seeking ways to get down from string theory to more accessible (low)
- energies. What is clear is that it seems that it is no longer true that
- there are only a handful of consistent string theories. And there has
- always been a plethora of vacuum solutions (i.e. all those Calabi-Yau
- manifolds). The hope is now that a nonperturbative formulation of the
- theory will narrow down the choices. String theory is still the current
- favorite (certainly in these parts) for unifying gravity with the other
- forces. Anyway, I need to finish some transparancies, but I just want to
- reiterate that string theory is not dead; the emphasis has merely shifted
- in our approach to it and phenomenological questions have fallen into the
- background somewhat pending new insights and data. Hopefully a nice boost
- will come from the discovery of supersymmetry at the SSC. (Let's not start
- that thread again :^).) The other problem is more practical. Jobs in
- string theory are becoming very limited and the amount of activity will
- probably decrease as people switch over to other areas of physics. This is
- not to say that strings are not worth pursuing.
-
- Mark Doyle, 11 hours to go...
- mdd@puhep1.princeton.edu
-
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: What do we know about choice of groups?
- From: matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
- Date: 10 Sep 92 23:13:27
-
- In article <1992Sep11.021551.1744@nuscc.nus.sg> matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Mcinnes B T (Dr)) writes:
-
- > Suppose that the standard theory is right, and that the gauge group of
- > the world is "SU3xSU2xU1" [actually S[ U2xU3 ] of course]. Then we will
- > have to understand why this particular group was chosen from infinitely
- > many others. The same problem arises, albeit less urgently, if GUTs are
- > correct: why SO[10] [actually Spin[10] of course] rather than SO[110]
- > ?
- > What ideas have been proposed to solve this problem?
-
- Well, one constraint that most theorists believe in is that a gauge
- theory has to be anomaly-free. I really don't feel like explaining
- what that means just now; for the moment, let's just say that it is a
- technical property which is necessary for the theory to be
- renormalizable. This excludes most possible gauge groups---still
- leaving an infinite number, but a much smaller infinity than without
- that constraint.
-
- We can hope that by imposing other physical principles, we might be
- left with fewer possibilites---ideally, only one. String theorists
- have some optimism along those lines.
-
-
- --
- Matthew Austern Just keep yelling until you attract a
- (510) 644-2618 crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a
- austern@lbl.bitnet faction, an army! If you don't have any
- matt@physics.berkeley.edu solutions, become a part of the problem!
-
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Categories (was: Re: Almost a group, or what?)
- From: jbaez@banach.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Date: 7 Aug 92 15:55:51 GMT
- References: <18240@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com> <1992Aug6.224328.14971@pasteur.Ber
- Keywords: Algebra, groups
-
- In article <1992Aug6.224328.14971@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> luzeaux@bellini.berkel
-
- >As for R non associative and R commutative, it is a commutative magma
- >(cf Bourbaki),
- >which does not seem so interesting.
-
- It is interesting however to note why associativity without
- commutativity is studied so much more than commutativity without
- associativity. Basically, because most of our examples of binary
- operations can be interpreted as composition of functions. For example,
- if write simply x for the operation of adding x to a real number (where
- x is a real number), then x + y is just x composed with y. Composition
- is always associative so the + operation is associative!
-
- Let me point out that one of the most interesting generalizations of a
- group is a category. In what follows I'll give a skimpy introduction to
- category theory and hint at its applications to physics, though I want
- to say more about that later.
-
- -- All you ever needed to know about category theory in 2 pages. -----
-
- Categories are some of the most basic structures in mathematics. They
- were created by Saunders MacLane, I believe. (A lot of other people
- were involved, but I know MacLane said: "I did not invent category
- theory to talk about functors. I invented it to talk about natural
- transformations." Huh? Wait and see.)
-
- What is a category? Well, a category consists of a set of OBJECTS and
- a set of MORPHISMS. Every morphism has a SOURCE object and a TARGET
- object. (The example to think of is the category in which the objects
- are sets and the morphisms are functions. If f:X -> Y, we call X the
- source and Y the target.) Given objects X and Y, we write Hom(X,Y)
- for the set of morphisms from X to Y (i.e., having X as source and Y
- as target).
-
- The axioms for a category are that it consist of a set of objects and
- for any 2 objects X and Y a set Hom(X,Y) of morphisms from X to Y, and
-
- 1) Given a morphism g in Hom(X,Y) and a morphism f in Hom(Y,Z), there
- is morphism which we call fog in Hom(X,Z). (This binary operation o is
- called COMPOSITION.)
-
- 2) Composition is associative: (fog)oh = fo(goh).
-
- 3) For each object X there is a morphism id|X from X to X, called the
- IDENTITY ON X.
-
- 4) Given any f in Hom(X,Y), foid|X = f and id|Yof = f.
-
- The classic example is Set, the category with sets as objects and
- functions as morphisms, and the usual composition as composition!
- Or else
-
- Vect --- vector spaces as objects, linear maps as morphisms
- Group ---- groups as objects, homomorphisms as morphisms
- Top --- topological spaces as objects, continuous functions as morphisms
- Diff --- smooth manifolds as objects, smooth maps as morphisms
- Ring --- rings as objects, ring homomorphisms as morphisms
-
- Note that in all these cases the morphisms are actually a special sort
- of function. That need not be the case in general! For example, an
- ordered set is a category with its elements as objects and one
- morphism in each Hom(X,Y) if X is less than or equal to Y, but none
- otherwise. Weird, huh?
-
- The golden rule of modern mathematics is that life takes place within
- -- and between -- categories. Many nice things in mathematics are
- functors. A functor is a kind of map between categories. A FUNCTOR F
- from a category C to a category D is a map from the set of objects of
- C to the set of objects of D together with a map from the set Hom(X,Y)
- for any objects X,Y of C to Hom(F(X),F(Y)). That is, objects go to
- objects and morphisms go to morphisms.
-
- Category theory is popular among algebraic topologists. Typically an
- algebraic topologist will try to assign algebraic invariants to
- topological structures. The golden rule of such invariants is that
- they should be FUNCTORIAL. That is, they should be functors! For
- example, the fundamental group is functorial. Topologists know how to
- cook up a group called the fundamental group from any space. (The
- group keeps track of how many holes the space has.) But ALSO, any map
- between spaces determines a homomorphism of the fundamental groups.
- So the fundamental group is really a functor from the category Top to
- the category Group.
-
- This allows us to completely transpose any situation involving spaces
- and continuous maps between them to a parallel situation involving
- groups and homomorphisms, and thus reduce some topology problems to
- algebra problems!
-
- There is a famous saying about quantization among mathematical
- physicists: "First quantization is a mystery, but second quantization
- is a functor!" No one is a true mathematical physicist unless they
- can explain that remark. In second quantization we attach to each
- Hilbert space H its Fock space K (another Hilbert space), and to each
- unitary map between Hilbert spaces a unitary map between their Fock
- spaces. (Fock spaces come in two flavors: bosonic and fermionic.)
-
- Now, there are NATURAL TRANSFORMATIONS between functors.
- Suppose we have two functors F and G from the category C to the category
- D. A natural transformation n from F to G consists of: 1) for each
- object X in C, a morphism n(X) from F(X) to G(X), such that 2) the
- following diagram commutes:
-
- F(X) -F(f)-> F(Y)
- | |
- n(X)| |n(Y)
- v v
- G(X) -G(f)-> G(Y)
-
- An example would be "abelianization", which maps a group H to the
- abelian group H/[H,H]. If F were the fundamental group and G were the
- first homology group, we could say that abelianization is a natural
- transformation from F to G.
-
- An interesting object in physics is Minkowski space. We can imagine a
- category Mink which has only one object - Minkowski space! And whose
- morphisms are the Poincare transformations (i.e., rotations,
- translations, Lorentz transformations, and composites thereof)! This
- shows that categories are a generalization of group representations,
- by the way. Then one can imagine a natural transformation from
- Minkowski space to the category Spin with one object, the space of
- spinors (fancy for 4-tuples of complex numbers), and morphisms given
- by the representation of the Poincare group on this space. Then what
- expresses the principle of relativity most precisely is that the value
- of any observable, e.g. a spinor, must define a FUNCTOR from Mink to
- the relevant category, in this case Spin. (We can also express the
- principal of general covariance and the principal of gauge-invariance
- most precisely by saying that observables are functorial.)
-
- So physicists should regard functoriality as mathematical for "able to
- be defined without reference to a particular choice of coordinate system."
-
- Now what is the category of all categories? As I said, it's a 2-category.
- What's a 2-category? And what do they have to do with quantum gravity?
- Stay tuned....
-
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Categories and Quantization
- From: jbaez@nevanlinna.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Date: 7 Aug 92 19:41:58 GMT
- References: <1992Aug7.155551.20912@galois.mit.edu> <BsMHq1.JpH@cs.psu.edu>
-
- Two more micro-essays on physics and category theory. First, an
- advertisement for the notion that group representations are really only
- a special case of category representations. This idea was sold to me by
- Minhyong Kim. He said: "Eventually people will see that group
- representation theory is not such a big deal; what really matters is
- representations of categories." At first I thought he was trying to
- sound slick (he always goes for the most abstract and elegant
- viewpoint). But then I wound up needing category representations in my
- own work on quantum gravity.
-
- Second, an explanation of the claim that "first quantization is a
- mystery, but second quantization is a functor."
-
- -----
- In article <BsMHq1.JpH@cs.psu.edu> sibley@math.psu.edu writes:
- >
- >Speaking of groups and categories, I have always liked the category
- >version of the definition of a group:
- >
- > A group is a category with one object in which all the morphisms
- > are isomorphisms.
-
- This is very important because it leads one to see that more general
- than a representation of a group is a representation of a CATEGORY. A
- representation of a group, if we think of a group as a category as
- Sibley suggests, is just a functor from that category to the category
- Vect of vector spaces. So we can define a representation of a category
- to be a functor from the category to the category of vector spaces.
-
- An example of an interesting category with interesting representations
- is the category of TANGLES. Tangles are like braids but the strands can
- double back on themselves and there can also be closed loops.
- The objects in the category Tang are {0,1,2,...} and the morphisms in
- Hom(m,n) are (isotopy classes of) tangles with m strands going in and n
- strands coming out. A picture is worth a thousand words here. Here is
- an element of Hom(2,4):
-
- | |
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /\
- / \ / \
- | \ / \
- | \ |
- | / \ |
-
- 2 in, 4 out! Here is an element of Hom(4,0):
-
- | | | |
- \ / \ /\ /
- \/ \ \
- / \/ \
- \____/
-
- 4 in, none out! We can compose these morphisms to get a morphism in
- Hom(2,0):
-
- | |
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /\
- / \ / \
- | \ / \
- | \ |
- | / \ |
- | | | |
- \ / \ /\ /
- \/ \ \
- / \/ \
- \____/
-
-
- To be precise, a tangle is a 1-manifold X with boundary embedded in
- [0,1] x R^2, such that boundary of X is mapped to the boundary of [0,1]
- x R^2 and such that X intersects the boundary of [0,1] x R^2
- transversally. We also assume that the points in the boundary of X get
- mapped to certain "standard" points (0,x_i) and (1,x_i) in the boundary
- of [0,1] x R^2, so we can compose tangles by gluing them together as in
- the picture above. There is thus a category whose objects are
- {0,1,2,....} and whose morphisms Hom(m,n) are isotopy classes of tangles
- with m boundary points in {0}xR^2 and n boundary points in {1}xR^2.
-
- Now it turns out that quantum gravity involves finding representations
- of the category of tangles! And it turns out that there is a way to get
- a representation of the category of tangles from any finite-dimensional
- representation of a semisimple Lie group. This construction is due to
- Reshetikhin and Turaev and involves quantum groups. Try:
-
- Turaev V G 1988 The Yang-Baxter equation and
- invariants of links {\sl Invent.\ Math.\ }{\bf 92} 527
-
- Reshetikhin N, Turaev V 1990 Ribbon
- graphs and their invariants derived from quantum groups
- {\sl Comm.\ Math.\ Phys.\ }{\bf 127} 1
-
- Turaev V G 1990 Operator invariants of tangles, and
- R-matrices {\sl Math.\ USSR Izvestia} {\bf 35} 411
-
- Reshetikhin N, Turaev V 1991 Invariants of
- 3-manifolds via link-polynomials and quantum groups {\sl Invent.\
- Math.\} {\bf 103} 547
-
- For the quantum gravity application see my paper, and also
-
- Br\"ugmann B, Gambini R, Pullin J 1992 Jones
- polynomials for intersecting knots as physical states for quantum
- gravity {\sl University of Utah preprint}
-
- Crane L 1991 2-d physics and 3-d topology {\sl Comm.\Math.\ Phys.\ }{\bf
- 135} 615
-
- -----
- Someone asked me to explain first and second quantization. In ten words
- or less. :-) First quantization is a mystery. It is the attempt to
- get from a classical description of a physical system to a quantum
- description of the "same" system. Now it doesn't seem to be true that
- God created a classical universe on the first day and then quantized it
- on the second day. So it's unnatural to try to get from classical to
- quantum mechanics. Nonetheless we are inclined to do so since we
- understand classical mechanics better. So we'd like to find a way to
- start with a classical mechanics problem -- that is, a phase space and a
- Hamiltonian function on it -- and cook up a quantum mechanics problem --
- that is, a Hilbert space with a Hamiltonian operator on it. It has
- become clear that there is no utterly general systematic procedure for
- doing so.
-
- Mathematically, if quantization were "natural" it would be a FUNCTOR
- from the category whose objects are symplectic manifolds (= phase spaces) and
- whose morphisms are symplectic maps (= canonical transformations) to the
- category whose objects are Hilbert spaces and whose morphisms are
- unitary operators. Alas, there is no such nice functor. So
- quantization is always an ad hoc and problematic thing to attempt. A
- lot is known about it, but more isn't. That's why first quantization is
- a mystery.
-
- (By the way, I have seen many "no-go" theorems concerning quantization
- but I have never seen one phrased quite like the above. "There is no
- functor from the symplectic category to the Hilbert category such that
- ...... holds." Is anyone up to the challenge?? If this hasn't been done
- yet it would clarify the situation.
-
- Note that there IS a functor from the symplectic category to the
- Hilbert category, namely one assigns to each symplectic manifold X the
- Hilbert space L^2(X), where one takes L^2 w.r.t. the Liouville measure.
- Every symplectic map yields a unitary operator in an obvious way.
- This is called PREQUANTIZATION. The problem with it physically is that
- a one-parameter group of symplectic transformations generated by a
- positive Hamiltonian is not mapped to a one-parameter group of unitaries
- with a POSITIVE generator. So my conjecture is that there is no
- "positivity-preserving" functor from the symplectic category to the
- Hilbert category.)
-
- Second quantization is the attempt to get from a quantum description of
- a single-particle system to a quantum description of a many-particle
- system. (There are other ways to think of it, but let's do it this
- way.) Starting from a Hilbert space H for the single particle system,
- one forms the symmetric (or antisymmetric) tensor algebra over H and
- completes it to form a Hilbert space K, called the bosonic (or
- fermionic) FOCK SPACE over H. Any unitary operator on H gives a unitary
- operator on K in an obvious way. More generally, one has a functor
- called "second quantization" from the Hilbert category to itself, which
- sends each Hilbert space to its Fock space, and each unitary map to an
- obvious unitary map. This functor *is* positivity-preserving. (All the
- weird problems with negative-energy states of the electron, Dirac's
- "holes in the electron sea," and such, are due to thinking about things
- the wrong way.)
-
- Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math
- Subject: Tangles
- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 03:46:04 GMT
-
- Before I finally get around to revealing what a 2-category is and what
- they might have to do with quantum gravity, I thought I should talk a
- bit about the category of tangles, because it is so utterly beautiful.
-
- I'm not going to be very formal, so anyone who wants the rigorous
- details should take a look at
-
- Yetter D N 1988 Markov algebras, in Braids, Contemp. Math. 78, 705.
-
- Turaev V G 1990 Operator invariants of tangles, and
- R-matrices, Math.\ USSR Izvestia 35 411.
-
- I will just say that a tangle is a bunch of strands connecting
- n points on the ceiling to m points on the floor, possibly with a bunch
- of knots thrown in the middle:
-
-
-
- | |
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /\
- / \ / \
- / \ / \
- / \ \
- / / \ |
- \ / \ |
- | / \ /\ /
- / \ \ \
- / | / \/ \
- / | \____/
- | |
- | |
-
- For us two tangles will be the same (technically, "isotopic") if one
- can be deformed into the other; i.e., we think of the strands as being
- infinitely flexible and are allowed to wiggle them around but not move
- them over the ceiling or under the floor; we aren't allowed to move
- the places where the strands touch the ceiling and floor, though.
-
- Note that knots, links and braids are all special cases of tangles.
- Tangles are great because the provide a nice algebraic structure to
- study all of these things.
-
- We say the above tangle is in Hom(2,2) because there are 2 points on the
- ceiling and 2 on the floor. Here is an element of Hom(2,4):
-
- | |
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /\
- / \ / \
- | \ / \
- | \ |
- | / \ |
-
- and here is an element of Hom(4,0):
-
- | | | |
- \ / \ /\ /
- \/ \ \
- / \/ \
- \____/
-
- Note that we can "compose" these tangles to get one in Hom(2,0):
-
- | |
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /\
- / \ / \
- | \ / \
- | \ |
- | / \ |
- | | | |
- \ / \ /\ /
- \/ \ \
- / \/ \
- \____/
-
- In Hom(n,n) there is an "identity" tangle which is just a bunch of
- vertical strands:
-
- | | |
- | | |
- | | |
- | | |
- | | |
- | | |
-
- and if you compose any tangle x with the identity on the right or left you
- get x again. This, together with the associativity of composition, is
- all we mean by saying that tangles form a category.
-
- But we can also take the tensor product of two tangles. The tensor
- product of
-
- | |
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /\
- / \ / \
- | \ / \
- | \ |
- | / \ |
-
- and
-
- | | | |
- \ / \ /\ /
- \/ \ \
- / \/ \
- \____/
-
- is
-
- | | | | | |
- \ / \ / \ /\ /
- \ / \/ \ \
- \ /\ / \/ \
- / \ / \ \____/
- | \ / \
- | \ |
- | / \ |
-
- MP: all this is reminiscent of Penrose's spin-networks, at least
- the diagrammatic representations of algebraic compositions, to me
-
- Notice that the tensor product is associative and that composition
- and tensor product satisfy certain obvious identities (just like the
- identities that hold for tensor product and composition of linear maps
- between vector spaces).
-
- By now the physicists must be wondering how mathematicians get paid to
- play around with this sort of thing. I will try to head off such rude
- remarks by noting that another name for tangles would be "Feynman
- diagrams". Of course Feynman diagrams are *labeled* tangles - the strands
- carry spin, momentum, and other quantum numbers. Also Feynman diagrams
- have vertices, which tangles don't. Also Feynman diagrams don't really
- live in 3-dimensional space. Nonetheless, there is a real relationship.
- For starters, if we were going to talk about labeled tangles with
- vertices we would be working with a generalization that has been studied
- by Reshetikhin and Turaev in their paper:
-
- Reshetikhin N, Turaev V 1990 Ribbon
- graphs and their invariants derived from quantum groups,
- Comm. Math. Phys. 127, 1.
-
- Their strands are labeled by representations of quantum groups and they
- get nice topological invariants this way.
-
- Anyway, here's the question of the day: how do we describe the category
- of tangles. Well, Turaev and Yetter both showed that it can be
- described by generators and relations almost like a group can. The
- generators are as follows. First, the identity 1 in Hom(1,1):
-
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
-
- Second, the basic "right-handed crossing" r in Hom(2,2):
-
- \ /
- \ /
- /
- / \
- / \
-
- and the left-handed crossing r^{-1} in Hom(2,2):
-
- \ /
- \ /
- \
- / \
- / \
-
- (Note that rr^{-1} and r^{-1}r are both the identity in Hom(2,2), so
- the names are appropriate.)
-
- Third, the "cup" in Hom(2,0):
-
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /
- \/
-
- and the "cap" in Hom(0,2):
-
- /\
- / \
- / \
- / \
-
- These are really primordial things! In what sense do they "generate"
- the category of tangles. Well, any tangle can be formed from these guys
- by taking tensor products and composites. For example, this guy
-
- | |
- \ /
- \ /
- \ /\
- / \ / \
- | \ / \
- | / |
- | / \ |
-
- can be written as
-
- (1 x r x 1)(r^{-1} x cap)
-
- where I'm using x for tensor product and juxtaposition for composition.
-
- Okay, so those are the generators (if you don't believe me, prove it!).
- What are the relations? This is the cool part. Of course, there are a
- bunch of relations which just come from the properties of the tensor
- product and composition. Tensor product and composition satisfy these
- relations in any "monoidal category", but what we want are the relations
- special to the category of tangles. They were figured out by Turaev and
- Yetter, who actually came up with slightly different, but equivalent,
- sets of relations. As I like them, they are as follows... I'll draw
- them rather than write them as formulae:
-
-
- \ / \ / | |
- \ / \ / | |
- / \ | |
- / \ / \ | |
- / \ = / \ = | |
- \ / \ / | |
- \ / \ / | |
- \ / | |
- / \ / \ | |
- / \ / \ | |
-
- (which just says that r^{-1} really lives up to its name, and is also
- known as the 2nd Reidemeister move)
-
-
- \ / | | \ /
- \ / | | \
- \ | | / \
- / \ | | / \
- / \ / \ / |
- | \ / \ / |
- | \ = \ |
- | / \ \ |
- | / \ / \ /
- \ / | | \ /
- \ / | | \
- \ | | / \
- / \ | | / \
- / \ | | / \
-
- (which is the 3rd Reidemeister move, also known as the Yang-Baxter
- equation)
-
- | /\ /\ | |
- | / \ / \ | |
- | / \ / \ | |
- \ / | = | \ / = |
- \ / | | \ / |
- \/ | | \/ |
-
-
- | | /\ | /\
- | | / \ | / \
- | \ / \ \ / \
- | \ / | \ / |
- | = \ | = / |
- | / \ | / \ |
- | / \ / / \ /
- | | \ / | \ /
- | | \/ | \/
- | | |
-
- (which is called the 1st Reidemeister move)
-
- and then 4 closely related identities:
-
- | \ / \ / |
- | \ / \ / |
- | \ / |
- | / \ / \ |
- | / \ = / \ |
- \ / | | \ /
- \ / | | \ /
- \/ | | \/
-
-
- | \ / \ / |
- | \ / \ / |
- | / \ |
- | / \ / \ |
- | / \ = / \ |
- \ / | | \ /
- \ / | | \ /
- \/ | | \/
-
-
- /\ | | /\
- / \ | | / \
- / \ | | / \
- | \ / \ / |
- | \ / \ / |
- | / = \ |
- | / \ / \ |
- | / \ / \ |
-
-
- /\ | | /\
- / \ | | / \
- / \ | | / \
- | \ / \ / |
- | \ / \ / |
- | \ = / |
- | / \ / \ |
- | / \ / \ |
-
-
- If you want to see these identities written algebraically, and you have
- LaTeX, give this a try:
-
- \def\tensor{\otimes}
- \begin{array} rr^{-1} &=& r^{-1}r \quad =\quad | \tensor | \nonumber\cr
- (| \tensor \cup)(\cap \tensor |) &=& (\cup \tensor |)(| \tensor
- \cap) \quad =\quad | \nonumber\cr
- (r \tensor |)(| \tensor r)(r\tensor |) &=& (| \tensor r)(r \tensor
- |)(1 \tensor r) \nonumber\cr
- (| \tensor \cup)(r \tensor |) &=& (\cup \tensor |)(| \tensor r^{-1})
- \nonumber\cr
- (| \tensor \cup)(r^{-1} \tensor |) &=& (\cup \tensor |)(| \tensor r)
- \nonumber\cr
- (r \tensor |)(| \tensor \cap) &=& (| \tensor r^{-1})(\cap \tensor |)
- \nonumber\cr
- (r^{-1} \tensor |)(| \tensor \cap) &=& (| \tensor r)(\cap \tensor |)
- \nonumber\cr
- (| \tensor \cup)(r \tensor |)(| \tensor \cap) &=& (| \tensor \cup)
- (r^{-1} \tensor |)(| \tensor \cap = | \tensor |.\nonumber\end{array}
-
- To see the power of these identities (together with the rules satisfied
- by tensor product and composition), use them to deduce:
-
- | /\ /\ |
- | / \ / \ |
- \ / \ / \ /
- \ / | | \ /
- \ | = | \
- / \ | | / \
- / \ / \ / \
- | \ / \ / |
- | \/ \/ |
- | |
-
- There are endless fun and games to be had with these rules, which
- encode a lot of the topology of 3-dimensional space. Try Kauffman's
- book "Knots and Physics" for some of this fun. It may be surprising,
- but it shouldn't be, that the category of tangles and its
- representations constitutes a big hunk of conformal field theory (hence
- string theory). It also is practically the SAME THING as Chern-Simons
- field theory (a 3-dimensional topological quantum field theory) and, I
- attempt to show in my paper "Quantum Gravity and the Algebra of
- Tangles," they have a lot to do with 4-dimensional quantum gravity.
-
-